Privacy doesn't help you when building
corporate credit. If anything, it backfires. Bankers
want to know who is behind the company. Bankers feel more
comfortable with you and your company when you're the
corporate officer or manager, the business is in your name,
you're the signer on the account, and you're the contact for the
post office and the IRS. It signals commitment,
connectivity, transparency and clarity.
When you obtain another person to serve as corporate officer on
your behalf, it seems uncertain, unclear and ambiguous.
And now with the banking crisis, the lenders are nervous and
agitated. If you need credit, don't use a nominee for
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purpose of this page is to cover why someone may prefer
not to list themselves on the public record for
the company they own, or control. We also cover the nominee EIN
and signers on accounts, and how that impacts business matters.
ISSUES, CHALLENGES AND PROBLEMS OF A NOMINEE OFFICER/CORPORATE OFFICER
SERVICE FOR YOUR WYOMING CORPORATION OR WYOMING LLC, OR A COMPANY FROM
ANY OTHER STATE
ADVANTAGES OF USING A NOMINEE/CONTRACT OFFICER
1. Prevent identity theft.
Protect your credit and company identity against theft.
The Secretary of State, in every State, doesn't require ID before they
file a document as it applies to the company. This means you're at
risk for someone pretending to be you. This justifies your use of
our corporate officer services to protect your business interests.
2. Discourage people from having an incentive to sue you.
If assets have your name on them, then you're painting a bulls eye
on your forehead. In other words, you're asking for trouble
when key assets are attached to your name.
3. Reduce exposure to the abuses associated with public records.
4. Enjoy increased flexibility in acquiring assets and business interests
without others gossiping about you. It prevents personalities from
creating conflicts. For example, Disney obtained land using
nominees, who were attorneys, and a group of corporations.
This is so the local landowners wouldn't know what he had in mind
to build a theme park. This kept land prices low and prevented
speculators from competing against him and boosting prices.
1. It's difficult or impossible to obtain
corporate credit. Lenders want to see you associated with the
company through the public record. When this doesn't happen, they
tend to refuse credit lines; as do those who lease equipment and other
sources of credit. In other words, if you seek to build business
credit, don't use a "nominee." Most of the time, business owners
use our companies to build business credit. As such, using a
nominee officer is contrary to their objectives.
As for banks in
particular, they want you exposed on the public record. If you
were the bank, would you lend money to a company whose company officer
wasn't running the company? No. It's a fundamental principle
that bankers seek to know who is behind the corporation.
2. Accessing loans are next to
impossible when using a nominee officer for privacy. It's
3. You're in an asset building stage
in your life, and protecting assets is not a high priority. You
must first have something to protect. This means privacy works
against your short term interests in accessing financing.
4. These disadvantages highlight
the issue of why transparency is important to obtain corporate credit.
If you don't have an asset portfolio worth chasing, and you're starting
then focus on limited liability by using a corporation. If you have an
asset base, a corporate officer service is often advantage with a solid
estate plan, and qualified legal and tax advice.
5. Even if a nominee
officer/contract officer is an advantage, the privacy is superficial.
One subpoena will release your name and other information to a court of
competent jurisdiction. Protection from the abuses of the public
record is only skin deep. If asset protection is the goal, just
set up an LLC for maximum asset protection. With an LLC, the IRS
and the bank will know of your interest in the company, but the charging
order protection is formidable against private for-profit creditors.
See LLC.bz for more information.
HOW TO USE NOMINEE OFFICER/CONTRACT
OFFICER SERVICES FOR
YOUR WYOMING CORPORATION OR WYOMING LLC:
- Everything must be normal, and part of doing
daily business, even if the privacy is unveiled.
The contract officer will not and cannot hide you from
lie. You can't say the company isn't yours when it is.
You can't commit perjury. One well placed subpoena
discover the whole arrangement. Don't be shady or
slimy. Don't evade taxes.
such a service? Your
protection is the limited liability and the charging order
protection (LLC). Privacy only shields you from
identity thieves and takes the target off your back for a
short time. The nominee officer/contract officer also
helps you reinforce the corporate veil by preparing and
signing the resolutions, bylaws and operating agreement.
In this way the company is considered separate from yourself
and the corporate veil is protected. This is the key
advantage to such a service.
EIN's, BANKING AND THE SIGNER ON THE COMPANY BANK ACCOUNT:
What about a nominee EIN?
Nominee EIN's are worthless and often lead to unnecessary
trouble. The intended signer on
the bank account should apply for the EIN, whether it's you or
your bookkeeper. In this way, the bookkeeper is cognizant
that the EIN was obtained properly and correctly.
Although there are
providers who sell the idea of a nominee EIN, let's cover why
this practice is counter-productive, costly and ill-advised:
In order to liberate effective sales people from additional
paperwork, as well as
increased privacy and convenience; it's
normal for a bookkeeper or accountant to sign on the
bank account in place of the Treasurer. Seeking privacy
from the general public is healthy because of the risk of fraud,
deceit and forgery.
There is no privacy from the IRS. The bookkeeper
customarily has a copy of your name, DOB, SSN and a photocopy of
your driver's license.
This person, who serves as the signer on the account, should be
listed as a Treasurer, or Assistant Treasurer, for the company,
either through resolution, or on the public record.
Bookkeepers usually charge about $100 a month, or less, for this
Many business owners don't need this service. Rather, you
can sign on the account and the Treasurer function is filled by
the owner of the company. The corporate officer simply fills a function as far as the public
record is concerned, and possibly more. The Treasurer may
or may not sign on the bank account.
The signer on the account should apply for the EIN.
What about the bank?
don't need to bank in Wyoming if you have a Wyoming corporation
or Wyoming LLC. The same applies if you have a Nevada
corporation or Nevada LLC--you don't need a bank account in
Nevada. Incorporators like to make you pay for more
services than you need. Internet banks such as
Everbank.com, FirstIB.com, BankofAmerica.com, and Etrade.com
allow you to set up the account online, operate online, check
balances, etc., without hassle or interruption. Gone are
the days you need a bank account in the same state the company
is operating; even in Wyoming.
- Those who sell nominee EIN's use the same SSN to apply
for hundred's of EIN's. This red flags the SSN used
and the EIN's obtained. Do you want to be one of
hundreds or thousands of EIN's obtained for your business
using the same SSN? No. A person who you don't know
applies for your company's EIN? Not
a good idea.
A person who may not have paid taxes? Bad idea. A person who may
even be a criminal? Nope, no thanks. Sounds risky, am I right?
This may place you at increased risk for an audit, which
will cost professional fees. It's
not a good idea to buy a "nominee EIN." Don't do it.
Nominee EIN's don't help at all. In fact, it causes
- The nominee EIN's are sold and promoted by people who
sell privacy on the internet. These services are ill
advised. This creates a high
profile. Do you want to be high profile when obtaining
a little privacy? No. That doesn't make sense, am I right? The
same applies for the signer on the bank accounts.
Don't buy any "banking privacy" or "nominee signer" service
from providers on the internet. Rather, obtain a local
bookkeeper and ask that person to apply for the EIN, or sign
on your account. If the bookkeeper applies for the EIN
as a third party, you are identified to the IRS on the SS4
form (application for EIN). The bookkeeper simply
applies for the EIN as a third party and this may make the
process easier for you. The focus is to ease
operations and to streamline your business. This will
free you up for increased sales and responsible management
of the business. Even the third party services aren't
necessary. You can apply for the EIN yourself using
the IRS website online. It takes about fifteen
- The bookkeeper helps you keep
the accurate numbers to prepare the income tax return and pay all
taxes, as you must.
- How do you approach the bookkeeper for this service?
It's simple...tell the truth. You're busy and you
don't have time to handle these tasks. There are many
business people who are great at sales and marketing, but
are horrible at administration. You need
someone to trust with the numbers and the details of running
the business. The bookkeeper will help you declare
proper deductions and be truthful in all matters.
Focus your time or marketing and building the business as
your local bookkeeper keeps you on track and organized.
The privacy is a small plus. Organization is key.
The role of the bookkeeper is to keep you organized so you
can sell your product or service. The bookkeeper's
role is to assist you in compliance. He or she will
reduce your stress level and keep things humming along.
When you open the bank account, the bank requires name,
address, SSN, DOB and photocopy of picture ID. The
bank reports this information to the US Treasury. IRS
is the collection arm to the US Treasury. So, the
signer on the account should be the applicant for the EIN.
This means if you're the signer on the account, you should
apply for the EIN. If your bookkeeper is the signer on
the account, the bookkeeper should apply for the EIN.
Banks like consistency. If anything goes wrong with
the account or the bookkeeper, the bank should be cognizant
that you are the person in control. This also sets the
bookkeeper at ease that you are properly identified with the
bank and the IRS.
If you obtain a signer on the account, such as a bookkeeper,
then it's easier to prepare the tax return.
The bookkeeper will add up the financial numbers, prepare a
profit and loss statement, and the balance sheet.
Be truthful on the tax return and pay all taxes in full.
Obtain qualified tax advice. See a lawyer if
If you file for bankruptcy, you must report your
interest in the company that you own.
If you lie, you go to jail.
In other words, don't think that you can skimp on the
bankruptcy petition simply because you're not the signer on
the bank account. Remember that one subpoena upon the signer on the account will disclose your interest
and involvement with the company. Therefore, don't be
overconfident and don't be dishonest in any of your affairs.
Privacy offers convenience and limited security from the
doesn't conceal dishonest conduct.
On the other hand, using a bookkeeper doesn't completely
insulate you from theft and fraud.
In almost all cases, you should apply for the EIN instead of the
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